b"kind of setup. We dont see that shift- a new in-home destination charger ing anytime soon. that is available for all the different ve-We'realsoseeingthatevenwithhicle types out there. Right now, there some of these high voltage compo- are two standard plugs that are being nents and drive trains that we're talk- used, so it's not that much variety, if ingabout,andevenat9.6-kilowattyou will, from a charging standpoint. hour, a level two charger is fully oper- We will be focusing on the big stan-atable on a 40-amp circuit.dardsinourvehicles,makingsure Audience Question: Do you think Ithat they fit what is readily available should be looking at remote meter- and accessible out there. But these big ing? Is that something I should becompanies like Tesla are making huge planning on? strides, not only to offer destination Darren Foley: I would say that's achargers for all different kinds of elec-great feature. Everything seems to betric vehicles, but also opening up its trending towards having more visibil- superchargers. ity on electrical usage and I think thatBambei: This is a supposition but can only benefit a park owner. Thesuppose an electric RV in the future technologyisdefinitelythere.Justrolls into a campground, pulling an whether it works for your specific ap- electric Jeep with an electric golf cart plication, that's really up to you.behind it. All of them are low on bat-Audience Question: How can wetery juice and they want to plug in at improveontheRVproductweal- the campground, easily adding up to a ready have so that it's consistent? But100-amp load. Of course, we only have alsolookingforward,howarewe50amps.Greatpossibilitythatcan going to standardize this so that weburn the pedestal up. My question is don't end up with 18 different plugs,what liability does the campgroundPaul Bambei Christine Taylor18 different locations, charging met- have to service such a customer? And rics and all?if it were to blow up the pedestal, whothat question. Generally, you can re- guest or refuse them from using your Hjelmaker: Relative to standardiza- would be liable for it?fuse service for any non-discrimina- services or things like that, you've cre-tion, I drive a Tesla myself and TeslaChristine Taylor: You dont have totory purpose. As long as you refuseated a standard that they should be just announced that it will be offeringservice them, is my first thought toboth Darren and Gene for the sameawareofevenbeforetheyrollinto setup, then you would be okay. Ifyour campground. you decide that your campgroundAudienceQuestion:Whatisthe can't handle that, you should be re- regulation on charging for electric?fusing those people because if youTaylor: Therealreadysomestates allow them to come in, try to do thatwho have tackled the issue from a long-and it causes an issue to their vehi- term camping guest perspective. For clesortoyourcampground,youexample, in New York, our statute di-might be liable for that because youvides it. If you're a landlord, you can't had knowledge that it would createmake a profit on that submeter or elec-an issue and you chose to allow ittric to your tenants, but campgrounds anyway.are excluded from that law. I imagine, Conversely, if you didn't have theespecially if you can rally up some lob-knowledge or if they snuck it in and itbyists, they could bisect perhaps the didn't look like they had three differ- charging from it. Obviously, you can ent electric vehicles and they happenmake a profit on some of these charg-to be charging them and it creates aning stations. You have the ones where issue, just like the camper who does- you run your credit card through, so I n't know how to back into a campsitealready think there is a schism from the andknocksoutyourpedestal,youpenalties of the submetering on being could attempt to try to recoup fromable to pass on your current charges. I them in that kind of situation. imagine we will shift focus into pulling If you're concerned about peoplethem out of that kind of landlord/ten-chargingbehindyourback,I'dputant space moving forward. some kind of policy into your rules,Audience Question: Tesla has some such that if you had to remove thatsuperchargers that are using almost 500 amps. What is your suggestion? Howmanyampsdoyouthinkwe ought to put in? Zanger: The process for charging is startingquiteslowly.Your50-amp pedestal is sufficient to charge a vehicle. What's the consequence? It's going to take a long time because the pedestals don't have that much power. Next, is going to be a level-two charger. That level-twochargerisgoingtocharge again for a long time, eight to 10 hours. The superchargers are really for that quick turnaround for the traveler who wants to stop, recharge and then get going. Think more of a gas station type operation. I would say you really want to look firstattheelectricalinfrastructure that you have in your park to get peo-ple charged and then second, adding maybe a level two charger at a nomi-nal cost to provide that service. Foley: My recommendation would be that you start very small. Start with one or two chargers and be able to ad-vertise to the market that you have it available. Know that it is installed cor-rectly and that you're not going to be overtaxingyourelectricalgrid.It's going to be based off your needs as a park owner.Ben Quiggle WCM28 January 2022Woodalls Campground Magazine"